Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal

Another reason as to why the 2 events listed in Scriptures involving Gog are 2 separate events.

This is for my brothers and sisters in Christ.
God asks: "When My people Israel dwell safely, will you not know it?"
It refers to a time after the Israelites were scattered, and there no longer is a land promised to Moses, Aaron and Joshua.
A time when Israelites are not found, or are hidden. Today with DNA we now can know who is a descendant of Israelites.
This Gog event (Ezekiel 38) or 'evil plan', occurs during such a time. The Tanakh only readers know it, or maybe not? Maybe they were fooled like every one of us was, before we realized the wickedness of the minions of Gog.

Now for the Christian Bible readers.
The Day of the Lord, the day Christ returns.
Another Gog event in Revelation 20. This one will occur after Isaiah 11 is fulfilled and a thousand years of Christ's reign on earth.
He will rule the nations with the 144,000 from "the beloved city" (Jerusalem or New Jerusalem, I'm not sure). In those times, ALL will know who Israel the people are.

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Ephesians 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
The World is Under Angelic Rulers
Principalities of the air; princes of darkness; fallen angels; Watchers, allowed to remain free under Satan's command (Jubilees 10)

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Do Spiritual Powers Rule the Nations? A Biblical Perspective

The discussion explores whether spiritual beings—often described in the Bible as powers, principalities, rulers, or authorities—still influence nations and geopolitical events today. The reality of a supernatural realm is revealed in the Old Testament (especially in passages like Deuteronomy 32 and Daniel 10), certain spiritual beings were portrayed as having stewardship over nations. These beings were not meant to be worshiped as ultimate gods but were assigned responsibility under God. Over time, however, they became rebellious. In the New Testament, similar beings are described with terms like “powers,” “principalities,” “authorities,” and “dominions,” suggesting a hierarchy within the spiritual realm.
It is suggested that these dark powers are still active and may influence territories, governments, and institutions—even modern entities such as nations or criminal organizations.


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Daniel 10:12 Then he said to me, “Do not fear, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand, and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard; and I have come because of your words.
13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days; and behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left alone there with the kings of Persia.
14 Now I have come to make you understand what will happen to your people in the latter days, for the vision refers to many days yet to come.” 15 When he had spoken such words to me, I turned my face toward the ground and became speechless.
16 And suddenly, one having the likeness of the sons of men touched my lips; then I opened my mouth and spoke, saying to him who stood before me, “My lord, because of the vision my sorrows have overwhelmed me, and I have retained no strength.
17 For how can this servant of my lord talk with you, my lord? As for me, no strength remains in me now, nor is any breath left in me.”
18 Then again, the one having the likeness of a man touched me and strengthened me.
19 And he said, “O man greatly beloved, fear not! Peace be to you; be strong, yes, be strong!” So when he spoke to me I was strengthened, and said, “Let my lord speak, for you have strengthened me.”
20 Then he said, “Do you know why I have come to you? And now I must return to fight with the prince of Persia; and when I have gone forth, indeed the prince of Greece will come.
21 But I will tell you what is noted in the Scripture of Truth. (No one upholds me against these, except Michael your prince.

The Prince of Greece did come and gave strength to the famous Alexander the Great

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Do repetitions in Scriptures mean it is the Same Event?

In the case of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, yes, as they describe the same accounts of the life of Jesus.

Mount of Olives or Mt Olivet, is mentioned in different parts of the Bible.
Is it the same event? NO!
2 Samuel; 1 Kings; Zechariah; and in the New Testament.
And NO they are not the same event.

When Satan is mentioned, is it the same event? NO, of course not.

How many principalities' names are given in the Bible? Satan and Gog. Both are nefarious.
(At the time I was developing this post, another principality escaped my mind. I forgot about Azazel. Depending on your version of the Bible, he is called the scapegoat or simply Azazel.) All right, how did I miss those other two?
Daniel 10:20 Then he said, “Do you know why I have come to you? And now I must return to fight with the prince of Persia; and when I have gone forth, indeed the prince of Greece will come.
If I am not mistaken, the prince of Greece is none other than Satan. Pergamos is in Greece, place "where Satan dwells", at the time when John wrote Revelation 2.  And indeed the Greeks invaded the land (and persecuted the Jews) before the Romans at the time of Jesus' life.

How many times is Gog mentioned? Twice exactly. Is it the same event? NO, it is not.
One is the 'evil plan' against peaceful people, the other is to lead those who despise Christ's rule on earth to take Jerusalem the place of the throne of God. (God's last test for humanity)
Who knows maybe the people will think they can kill God. But for Satan, Gog and the other principalities, it's their last hoorah, knowing they'll all end up in the lake of fire taking with them a multitude of people. Make no mistake some people will hate Christ's rule on earth, and God's Laws.
One occurs after the Millennial Reign of Christ on earth, the other started in 1948.

What is Magog?

1. The name of one of the sons of Japheth;
2. Later, it is the region the descendants of Magog migrated to and settled in.

Wy do people think Gog is a man? He is NOT, the Bible is clear on this.
Deuteronomy 32:8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.

Who are the sons of God? There you have to seek a little further: Enoch (200 of them); Jubilees God allowed one tenth of them to remain under Satan's command (20 of them).

Know this, these prophecies haven't been fulfilled yet: Zechariah 13 and 14.
Books didn't have chapters, men made chapters for easy reference.
14 follows 13: The Day of the Lord. It doesn't mention Gog and Magog, but it says "I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem"
And yes he is coming back to the same place he left from. (he said so): the Mount of Olives.

The Francum

Gog and Magog

Ezekiel 38:1 Now the word of the Lord came to me, saying,
2 “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3 and say, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal.
4 I will turn you around, put hooks into your jaws, and lead you out, with all your army, horses, and horsemen, all splendidly clothed, a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords.
5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya are with them, all of them with shield and helmet;
6 Gomer and all its troops; the house of Togarmah from the far north and all its troops—many people are with you.
7 “Prepare yourself and be ready, you and all your companies that are gathered about you; and be a guard for them.
8 After many days you will be visited. In the latter years you will come into the land of those brought back from the sword and gathered from many people on the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate; they were brought out of the nations, and now all of them dwell safely.
9 You will ascend, coming like a storm, covering the land like a cloud, you and all your troops and many peoples with you.”
10 ‘Thus says the Lord God: “On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan:
11 You will say, ‘I will go up against a land of unwalled villages; I will go to a peaceful people, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates’—
12 to take plunder and to take booty, to stretch out your hand against the waste places that are again inhabited, and against a people gathered from the nations, who have acquired livestock and goods, who dwell in the midst of the land.

Gog is not only the 'Prince of Magog', but also of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal.
Genesis 10:3 The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.
They became the ones known as 'The Francum'.
Gomer was a son of Japheth. The house of Togarmah is of Gomer also. Do you recognise the name: Ashkenaz? The Francum?
I'll give you a hint: Ashkenazi Jews. What about France the land of the Franks, Francum? Yes, There are many Ashkenazi Jews in France.
That's right, they are not Semites (of Shem). Yet, in 1948 they invaded the land that is now called the nation of Israel, and brought in other European settlers. Yes, descendants of Gomer usurped the ethnic Jews. Prior to 1948 and the Nakba, the people living there, had dwellings with no surounding property walls, bars, nor gates, and raised livestock. How many children have been unjustly killed for the past 75 years? How do you think Jesus feels about it?

The 2nd event involving 'Gog and Magog' points to a time in the future after the Millenium Kingdom of Christ on earth.

Revelation 20

Satanic Rebellion Crushed
7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison
8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea.
9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.

Because of the political use of Scriptures by deceivers, I felt that I had to clarify and remove confusion from God's word.

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The World is Under Angelic Rulers

Principalities of the air; princes of darkness; fallen angels; Watchers, allowed to remain free under Satan's command (Jubilees 10)

Deuteronomy 32 (ESV) based on the Dead Sea Scrolls (the most ancient manuscripts).
7 Remember the days of old; consider the years of many generations; ask your father, and he will show you, your elders, and they will tell you.
8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.

So the nations were divided and were assigned rulers that are princes of air, principalities, angels of darkness.
Example: Who is the ruler of Magog? No, not Putin. But 'Gog', a prince of the air, mentioned twice in the Bible.
And so, the original division of the nations each have one Angelic Ruler, that influence or dictate Kings; Presidents; and Prime Ministers.
Now, if we compare to other Bible translations? (thanks to Dr. Michael Heiser for pointing it out. video I viewed today.)

(NKJV)
7 “Remember the days of old, Consider the years of many generations. Ask your father, and he will show you; Your elders, and they will tell you:
8 When the Most High divided their inheritance to the nations, When He separated the sons of Adam, He set the boundaries of the peoples According to the number of the children of Israel.

Map made on Sept. 26th, 2025

Interesting coincidence, that the map showing the migration of the sons of Noah (minus Arpachashad and of course Seir), equals 12, as the number of the sons of Israel. Only the ESV translation is correct 'sons of God'. Other English translations do not make sense, and it may have been done on purpose, to keep people ignorant of the existence of those supernatural rulers.
Arpachashad's descendants take us to Abraham and later Jacob. God reserved them for him self. Whereas the others were given an Angelic ruler.
But, Shem, Ham and Japheth had a total of 16 sons.
Now according to Enoch's 200 and Jubilees 10's 1/10 not bound by God, It leaves us with 20 Watchers under Satan's command.
The fallen angels 9/10 of them were bound in the Pit.
The 4 bound in the river Euphrates, could have been part of the 20, hence leaving 16 under Satan. Matching the number of the grand sons of Noah. (Sorry for this basic math)

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Excellent secular viewpoint! Is it backed by prophecy, and is there a spiritual element? For one, backtrack 4,300 years ago and Jesus's word. 'You do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but with principalities of the air'. Jubilees 10 tells us that 1/10 of the fallen ones were allowed to remain in the world under the supervision of Satan.
Who is Gog, but a principality that has been unravelling the deception for centuries (a very real influencer of nations).
'Magog, Gomer and his troops'. A little genealogy and ancient migrations are necessary. After Babel, the sons of Noah migrated throughout the earth. Japheth's sons Magog; Gomer; and their sons, migrated to Northern Europe, East and West. One of the sons of Gomer, is Ashkinaz (a prominent group that adopted Judaism, but are not ethnic Jews). Source of migrations book of Jasher chap. 10.
The descendants of Japheth, from Europe to the East and Asia, did observe the same religious traditions than the descendants of Shem. In Asia it was replaced by Buddhism; Taoism; and Confucianism, coincidence, just about when Jesus was born. In European nations, some already had adopted Paganism.

What prophecy wasn't fulfilled in 1948, and hasn't been fulfilled yet, but was used for deception? Isaiah 11 (the regathering).
What prophecy unravelled in 1948? Ezekiel 38 ('The Evil Plan' of Gog), not quite yet over. But what will follow is Zechariah 14. (The Day of the Lord)
What of Revelation 20 you say? Gog and Magog occurs twice. Satan and his accolytes will be bound for a 1,000 years, but they will be released in order to deceive the nations that will dislike Christ's Reign on earth in the near future. Yes, again Gog will entice Magog for a final war once more, before Judgement day.

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The Whole Armour of God

Ephesians 6

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

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